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Ron Segal's avatar

Thanks Gary for the update. Irrespective of religious content, there's a question why would a court believe it is its responsibility to "uplift" participants. That in itself is an uncalled for spiritual intervention.

More generally I doubt any of us really believe that this "uplift" notion is the true intent anyway. Does that game really have to be played rather than confronting the elephant that this comes across to many people as a crude attempt at cultural indoctrination complete with unsolicited exposure to Maori language.

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Sheryl White's avatar

I've been retired for a few years now but remember how in my old job we were subjected to just this imposition of karakia at times, particularly at the beginning and end of staff training days. What I objected to most was that none of us were asked if this would be acceptable to us, and obviously no one cared if it wasn't. This was in a health setting in which there was a good number of Maori and Pacific Island staff. If I thought fleetingly of objecting I didn't pursue it.... didn't feel like coping with the probable fallout. I just looked around the room while it was in progress and uttered no "Amens"

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